Visited today to try to recover our surveying pegs so we are ready for the builder. Discovered that our front pegs are still there but the back ones have long gone. There have been houses built at the back of us and the builders and fencing companies have absolutely no respect and consequently, we have no survey pegs left anymore at the back of our block. So apart from us measuring the distance from the nearest fence, we are only guessing as to the position they should be.
What does one do? Is it our responsibility to make sure the pegs are in the correct position, somehow I think so. Will the developer come back and replace them? - probably not. Me thinks I need to get the block surveyed ourself and make sure the pegs are in the correct position. More expense!!
But better than the alternative - and we wouldn't want to find we had built on someone else's land.
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Hey Janine - are the rear blocks the same width as yours, or one of your boundary sides run in line? Peg could be hidden by fence post?
Our fence posts went in yesterday - I will check where pegs are?
No Deb, no such luck, the blocks at the back of us are narrower, so we have 2 back neighbours.
That's a damn good question...who's responsibility is it? When was the last time you saw your back pegs? Is your back fence in the correct position? Are builders even that accurate when they set out, anyway?
In theory, all of the blocks on your side will be in the same situation. Do you know what any of your neighbours are doing?
(ha ha-so many questions!!!)
Our 'nosey' neighbour put their fence on 200mm of our land..not sure if the builder was at fault or their fence guy so id say def get another land survey done!
Twilight run to the house and quick dinner.
Hopefully one rear neighbour side boundary is in-line with your side boundary?
Fence posts in -
Our garage side boundary runs in-line with rear neighbour. Two corner posts are set at right angles with peg exactly in middle.
Rails will be joined where the right angle meets. Peg is visible and cannot be removed.
Our bedroom side boundary is not in-line with rear neighbour (your scenario).
Your peg should be under the plinth of the next rear neighbour once you have measured the width of your block from the side boundary that is in-line.
Make sense????
Tonia, can you make Mr Nosey refund your land purchase by the percentage he's effectively stolen from you? At the very least he should co-contribute to your council rates!!!
Janine, do you want us all to come help you have a "mummy look"?
Deb, hope your fence posts look as hot as the rest of your house!!
Neither of our rear neighbours are in line with either of our fences as they are narrower blocks. Reading posts on forum, shall have to go down there with a shovel and have a dig around as they say survey pegs are quite thick and not easy to remove. Otherwise, I think I shall go to the office and complain profusely about the houses at the back and the fact that our land was used as a storage ground for their mulch and we still have pallets dumped at the back fence on our side. Shall request that the survey pegs be repositioned, as we were not asked for permission to be used as a dumping ground for the builders. Just want to be on the safe side. People on the forum reckon it costs around $1,000 for a re-survey. I hope we don't have to go down that route.
Just wrote a comment and lost it....not in sync this weekend, a little sad as should be starting to move.
Anyway, survey pegs approx. 50x50 white pegs level with ground, would need a bobcat to remove. Should be able to judge vicinity from front pegs and then David (not GSI) closely under your supervision can scratch around under plinths with shovel.
I too would be cross with rear Builder dumping on your block. Probably the same fencing contractor did whole rear street, find out who and have a whinge.
Office - we don't, nor care about services, telephone, know nothing etc...geez, thick as .....t
Reinsey, at least our fence posts are straight!!! Will be lovely to see out little backyard defined.
The pegs will be there somewhere Janine. It would take a lot of effort to get them out.
Hi there Janine -being a surveyor myself, I hear this kind of story all the time! Fencers are a mixed bag, some protect the pegs, some remove them and the WORST ones guess where they should go back in after removing them for their post!
In New Zealand it's against the law to deliberately remove a legal boundary mark -but you'd basically be bluffing if you went at the developer to replace them because no one ever gets prosecuted for it!
First step is to look for the pegs -but even if you find them, MAKE SURE that the builder checks their position back against the road frontage ones, to ensure they haven't been shoved around by the fencing work.
If you don't find the pegs -consider getting the surveyor to set out the building footprint INSTEAD of the boundaries. It'll cost around the same amount -but will save the builder a big job, the surveyor can sign off for council requirements AND they'll will be able to provide a level datum to ensure the slab is put it at the right height!
If you're on site when the surveyor is there -they'll probably also tell you where the old pegs should have been -and if the fence is on the boundarry as a bonus!
$1000 to the surveyor could be the best risk avoidance grand you spend on the whole job.
Hey Tonia -the only advantage to what's happened in your situation, is that you should now have 100% ownership of the fence. This could be important if you ever want it removed, lowered, or painted bright pink just on the other side :op
Check with your solicitor, but over in New Zealand we have a lot of people deliberately put a new fence entirely on their own side of the boundary, to avoid the other person having the rights you may just have gained over it.
So handy having a nephew who is a surveyor pity he lives in NZ :( Great advice Mike, we will go down to the block armed with shovels and mattocks to have a dig around ourselves hopefully if we can find 3 that's usually good enough for the builder. Fancy a trip to Melbourne for the weekend? Free meals & lodgings plus some $$$$?
Thanks for the info!! Might do a bit more research in that department..but I also don't want to cause any dramas with our neighbour too! I'll see what we can do!
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